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Old 19-07-2009, 09:51 PM   #1
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Default usb audio interfejs do 180 e

Pozdrav!

Planiram kupovinu USB zvucne kartice, pre svega zbog laptopa, pa me zanima koja bi mi najvise odgovarala?
Dao bih do 180 e.
Sto se tice opreme koju koristim to je Propellerhead Reason 4.0 + Cubase + Emu Xboard 61.
Jako mi je bitan latency. Na mom matorom SB Live-u sam izvlacio 8ms (moze i nize, ali da ne preterujem) sa Kx project driverima i to mi je savrseno odgovaralo. Da li cu moci da postignem ovakav rezultat sa USB karticom?
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Old 19-07-2009, 10:52 PM   #2
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Budi malo precizniji sta zelis tj sta ti osim latencije zavrsava posao ... koliko ulaza , izlaza , sa preampom , bez preampa , sa FX Dsp-om bez FX Dsp-a ....
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Old 20-07-2009, 11:46 AM   #3
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Default Re: usb audio interfejs do 180 e

U tom cenovnom rangu ima jedno simpaticno resenje:

Ima midi in,USB1.1,XLR pre sa 48v,
Focusrite signal processing: Gate, Compressor, EQ, Reverb;
Novation FX: Super Nova II Filter (low-, high- and band-pass), Super Nova II Delay, Super Nova II Chorus, Super Nova II Phaser
4 izlaza (2 stereo) i.t.d...
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Old 20-07-2009, 12:39 PM   #4
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Ili mozda pre EMU opcija


Sample Rates: 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, 192kHz from internal crystal (no sample rate conversion)*
Bit Depth: 24-bit I/O, 32-bit processing
USB 2.0 Hi-Speed

- Full 24-bit resolution at all sample rates
- 4in/4 out channels from 44.1-96kHz
- 2 in/2 out channels from 176.4-192kHz
Zero-latency direct hardware monitoring (disabled at 176.4-192kHz)
Windows: ASIO2, WDM, MME - AC3 and DTS Passthru supported
Macintosh: Apple CoreAudio and CoreMIDI - AC3 and DTS Passthru supported
Anti-Pop speaker protection minimizes noise during power on/off
Ultra-low jitter clock subsystem: < 500ps RMS in PLL mode (48kHz, Coaxial S/PDIF Sync)

Combo Microphone Preamplifier/Hi-Z/Line Inputs (2)

Type: E-MU XTC™ combo mic preamplifier and Hi-Z/line input w/ Soft Limiter
A/D converter: AK5385A
Gain Range: +60dB
Frequency Response (min gain, 20Hz-20kHz): +0.0/-0.16dB
Stereo Crosstalk (1kHz min gain, -1dBFS): < -110dB
Hi-Z Line Input:

- Input Impedance: 1Mohm
- Max Level: +12dBV (14.2dBu)
- Dynamic Range (A-weighted, 1kHz, min gain): 113dB
- Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-weighted, min gain): 113dB
- THD+N (1kHz at -1dBFS, min gain): -101dB (.0009%)
Microphone Preamplifier:

- Input Impedance: 1.5Kohms
- Max Level: +6dBV (+8.2dBu)
- EIN (20Hz-20kHz, 150ohm, unweighted): -127dBu
- Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-weighted, min gain): 112.5dB
- THD+N (1kHz at -1dBFS, min gain): -101dB (.0009%)
- Phantom Power: 48V
- Soft Limiter: 5dB max compression (software selectable)

Analog Line Outputs (2)

Type: balanced, AC-coupled, 2-pole low-pass differential filter
D/A converter: AK4396
Level (auto detect):

- Professional: +12dBV max (balanced)
- Consumer: +6dBV max (unbalanced)
Frequency Response (20Hz - 20kHz): 0.06/-.035dB
Dynamic Range (1kHz, A-weighted): 117dB
Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-weighted): 117dB
THD+N (1kHz at -1dBFS): -100dB (.001%)
Stereo Crosstalk (1kHz at -1dBFS): < -114.5dB

Headphone Amplifier

Type: Class-A power amplifier
D/A converter: AK4396 (shared with Line Out)
Gain Range: 60dB
Maximum Output Power: 20mW
Output Impedance: 22ohms
Frequency Response (20Hz-20kHz): +0.06/-0.035dB
Dynamic Range (A-weighted): 114dB
Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-weighted): 114dB
THD+N (1kHz, max gain): 600ohm load: -95.5dB (.0018%)
Stereo Crosstalk (1kHz at -1dBFS, 600 ohm load): < -85dB

Digital I/O

S/PDIF*:

- 2 in/2 out coaxial (transformer coupled)
- 2 in/2 out optical
- AES/EBU or S/PDIF format (software selectable)
MIDI

- 1 in, 1 out

Synchronization

Internal crystal sync at 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, 192kHz
External sample rate sync via

- Optical S/PDIF (44.1 - 96kHz)
- Coaxial S/PDIF (44.1 - 96kHz)

* Macintosh analog operation up to 96kHz and digital operation up to 48kHz only at this time.


Retail Box Contents

E-MU 0404 USB 2.0 AudioPod
USB cable (2 meters)
Quick Start installation guide
E-MU Software/Manual CD-ROM (Windows/Macintosh)
- Windows XP and x64 Drivers
- Macintosh OS X Drivers
- Owner's Manual and Tutorials
E-MU Production Tools Software Bundle CD-ROM (Windows)
- Cakewalk SONAR LE
- Steinberg Cubase LE
- Steinberg Wavelab Lite
- Celemony Melodyne essential
- IK Multimedia AmpliTube LE
- SFX Machine LT
- Minnetonka diskWelder BRONZE (trial)
E-MU Production Tools Software Bundle CD-ROM (Macintosh)
- BIAS Peak Express 5
- Celemony Melodyne essential
- IK Multimedia AmpliTube LE
- SFX Machine LT
- Minnetonka diskWelder BRONZE (trial)
E-MU Proteus? VX CD-ROM - over 1000 sounds included (Windows)
Ableton Live Lite 4 for E-MU CD-ROM (Windows/Macintosh)
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Old 20-07-2009, 01:08 PM   #5
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Odlicna karta. Nisam siguran da je u rangu do 180?,mislim da kosta vise, i nema dsp!
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Odlicna karta. Nisam siguran da je u rangu do 180?,mislim da kosta vise, i nema dsp!

Mislis na Novation ili EMU ?
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Old 20-07-2009, 03:12 PM   #7
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Mislim da bi ovaj emu interfejs mogao da krka barem 6ms latencije bez problema. ja sam imao PCI varijantu i bio je bang for buck.
Doduse, sada sa Apogee Duetom koji ide preko FW mogu da stavim 32 sempla buffer size i da shljaka komotno
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Mislim da bi ovaj emu interfejs mogao da krka barem 6ms latencije bez problema. ja sam imao PCI varijantu i bio je bang for buck.
Doduse, sada sa Apogee Duetom koji ide preko FW mogu da stavim 32 sempla buffer size i da shljaka komotno
Ma moze on i ispod 6ms ako se potrudi hehe
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Mislim na E-mu. Odlican,ali je skuplji od Novationa za nekih 25-30? od prilike po netu...
Novation je tu negde u ceni koju covek pominje. Sa emuom ce dobiti vise preampa (a sta ce mu?) i nema focusrite+novation dsp a drugo je isto,manje - vise... A ja od kako imam UAD,bezim od DX i VSTova ko djawo od krsta... ...mrkli mrak!
Dakle, DSP je veliki + u odnosu na pomrcinu krekovanih plugova...

U toj ceni - Novation
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Mislim na E-mu. Odlican,ali je skuplji od Novationa za nekih 25-30? od prilike po netu...
Novation je tu negde u ceni koju covek pominje. Sa emuom ce dobiti vise preampa (a sta ce mu?) i nema focusrite+novation dsp a drugo je isto,manje - vise... A ja od kako imam UAD,bezim od DX i VSTova ko djawo od krsta... ...mrkli mrak!
Dakle, DSP je veliki + u odnosu na pomrcinu krekovanih plugova...

U toj ceni - Novation
U ceni 200+? - E-mu.
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Moze da se nadje EMU do 180 bez problema ... a sto se tice DSP-a on je strukturno isti kao 0404 PCI znaci ima odvijen FX DSP ( EMU POWER FX ) .... Opet kazem koliko je meni poznato za 0202 usb ( nisam imao priliku da probam ) ali stari 0404 me je jako jako lepo sluzio i moze da se nadje po neki zanimljiv FX realno ....
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